Monday, February 29, 2016

The Sharks are circling! I'm Spartacus.

I recall to this day the last words the chief examiner said to us all as we got our shiny new badges at Penton street all those years ago.

'Many people get a very good living out of the cab trade' our faces lit up after years of slog on the KOL, he continued after a pause, 'none of them are cab drivers'.

His words are as true today as ever, we now have the Credit Card fiasco, another good idea totally ballsed up by TfL and the trade incompetents who have agreed to having fixed terminals for no good reason as millions of traders from car booters to Michelin starred restaurants seem to get by with mobile terminals.

The bogus argument about security is probably more about who advertises in what trade paper, after all we could pass forged notes all day long, we don't because we are mostly honest and/or we don't fancy a spell in the scrubs!

We also have TfL not mandating a maximum percentage charged to the driver staying that it's a commercial matter between us and the provider, all this noted through without a murmur from the TfL board and we all know the membership there.

So many are still paying 10% plus monthly rental for a unit that's well past it, my local shop pays 1.5%!!!!!

So again we have trade orgs agreeing to things without consultation and effectively creating an 'uncommercial' market to the disbenefit of the people who pay their wages, luxury company vehicles etc.

I wonder what percentage the suppliers of these fixed units pay on their own transactions?

If it's more than 3% I would be amazed.

Wake up folks!

I'm Spartacus

Consultation response from the UK Card Association 


Len Martin said...

I can assure you that the UCG objected most robustly to the mandating of card machine because we knew always that once mandated there would be folk queuing up to put their hands in our pockets. How could you not anticipate this? Hatdu at the airport also objected strongly.

Its ok saying 50% of the trade want this, what about the other 50% who don't? This is not democratic, why didn't TfL write directly to each cab driver and conduct a serious consultation review. Outlining the full details of the proposals? This was done in a way that only one outcome was possible. Until there is a full trade consultation whereby every driver is consulted in writing and the replies collated independently we will never put this to bed.

They can write to us all individually when they want to, but not when it matters it would seem.

Len Martin

Editorial said...

The LTDA, Unite, RMT and LCDC all agreed on a CC mandate (legally unenforceable), the only two who didn't agree were the UCG and HADTU.

Driver paying the card surcharge, is an unenforceable distraction (London Cab and Stage Carriage Act 1907) TfL can only set the fare, not the way the fare is paid.

TfL have made a complete mess of this issue, by trying to bludgeon it through. They've used loaded questions in a consultation to give the answers they wanted. Plus in the consultation report, answers in the form of percentages have been spun and manipulated to distort the fact.

TfL are only a licensing authority and not a politburo. Before they make any mandate, standing prima-legislation would have to be repealed and replaced. Something that TfL have not been successful in the past.

They can't even legally produce a cap on PH licenses, yet they want to interfere with the finance arrangements of 25,000 independent small businesses.

Paul said...

It's nor about whether accepting cards is a good idea (which it is), most orgs were happy to accept this on the understanding that there was a 3% cap on the rake off and that the use of mobile terminals was not a problem that what they agreed to.

As for it being democratic or not forget it, TfL consult when they want and in the way they want, until there's a public enquiry it will carry on.

I know the RMT and I think UNITE and LCDC have now repudiated its acceptance as TfL seemingly acted in bad faith by suddenly u turning on both the percentage cap and the requirement for a fixed terminal, just shows you were cooperation gets you with this lot.

It appears it's only the LTDA and TfL are happy with this, can the LTDA tell us why they did not oppose fixed terminals or insist on a cap?

Paul B

Alan Wicker said...


how much of our PROTECTION, will be CHANGED?


page 18:
48: Deposit to be paid for WAITING - how will this work?

page 21:
52: Non-payment of fare

(3) ....payment on the SPOT

NB. ON THE SPOT! - a Credit Card is NOT payment on the SPOT, it's CREDIT - that's why it's called a Credit Card

and as others have asked previously in COMMENTS:

what happens at the end of a ride, if CARD DECLINED shows-up on the terminal?

how does the FIXED TERMINAL, affect the vehicle Manufacturer's Warranty?

Alan Wicker