Tuesday, November 17, 2015

Camden's Reply To Email, Regarding Tavistock Place Trial.

Todays reply from Camden, regarding the current traffic system being trialed in Byng Place, Torrington Place and Torrington Place.

Dear Sir,

thank you for your email. 

The reasons for the trial are set out below.

The road forms part of an important east / west cycle link connecting Marylebone, Fitzrovia, Bloomsbury, King’s Cross and Angel. The most recent surveys in 2015 recorded 1,009 cyclists during the morning peak hour and 880 in the afternoon peak hour.  These figures demonstrate that the route is the busiest street for cycling in Camden and one of the busiest in London. The route now suffers from a number of issues:

• The number of cyclists has grown to a point where the existing cycle track does not provide sufficient space and also makes it difficult to safely overtake. 

• It is estimated that 50,000-60,000 students are based at the University of London Bloomsbury colleges, and they generate a large number of walking and cycling journeys. The area is extremely busy with pedestrians (over 1,800 pedestrians were counted on Torrington Place during the morning peak hour, rising to over 2,580 between 1pm and 2pm).

• The current road layout with narrow pavements, a two-way protected cycle track (on one side of the street) and a traffic lane in each direction does not provide a safe and attractive environment for the large number of pedestrians.

• The route suffers from a poor casualty record, particularly due to collisions between motor vehicles and both cyclists and pedestrians.

• Residents have also raised concerns that crossing the cycle track and then two traffic lanes can be difficult and confusing.

• A number of local groups, residents and institutions have asked the Council to look at ways of reducing the impact of through traffic in the area. As part of the approval for the West End project, the Council agreed to bring forward proposals for a trial to reduce the impact of through traffic on local residents in Torrington Place between Gower Street and Tottenham Court Road.

Because of the width of the road it is not possible to provide more space for walking and cycling without significantly reducing the space available for motor traffic. The experimental trial gives the opportunity to test a potential solution to these issues.

 The changes introduced with the trial will provide a safer and more attractive cycling route, which will improve conditions for existing cyclists, while also encouraging new cyclists. Removing westbound traffic will also make the corridor a more pleasant environment for pedestrians, with improved air quality and streets that are easier to cross.

The existing taxi rank will be retained outside the Tavistock Hotel.  Where a ramp is required to pick-up / drop-off disabled passengers, taxis will need to stop on a side street  for a left hand side kerb.


So there we have it. There's not enough room for cyclists racing each other to overtake!

And wheelchair users can be dropped off in other streets and make their way round, under their own steam. How caring of Camden Council!

While this is the scene in Tavistock street as portrait by Camden today 

This is the utter chaos being caused in Judd Street and other surrounding areas. 


Anonymous said...

So, for a peak hours total of some 2000 cyclists 1000's of people are inconvenienced throughout the day. Compared to motorists and pedestrians cyclists are very much in the minority but now has the whole area blighted in order to satisfy a relatively small number of people. As people have pointed out before, this is not Amsterdam or phnom Phenn, it's London. In an ideal world there'd be room for everyone, but then again it's not an ideal world.

Mike Hughes said...

The whole idea is concerned with cyclists primarily with a lesser concern for pedestrians. What about the elderly, the infirm, wheelchair users, parents with children in prams and buggies, people carrying cases, goods and shopping?

There are three major stations that need to be accessed and, most importantly, the hospitals in the area. How can delays to ambulances carrying patients with live threatening conditions where seconds can make a difference be justified so that fit, healthy people can be able to cycle or walk to the detriment of the old, the infirm and the very young patients of UCH and GOSH (plus the other medical facilities in the area)

It's a scheme dreamed up by young fit people. Where is the consultation with the the disabled, the blind, the wheelchair users who are probably not as computer savvy as the cycle brigade? Are the results skewed to get the answer that was wanted by those setting the survey.

Anonymous said...

That's discrimination !!!

Anonymous said...

In other words Camden council are saying... We've made a total shambles of the traffic management to the point where we have put the general public in danger. We are too arrogant to admit that we have wasted a huge amount of money and have decided to use statistics to to try and dig ourselves out of our self made hole. Until we can come up with a note suitable idea, the road will remain closed !

spencer kurash said...

No-one put their name to the reply?

Brian said...

And let's not forget the mad, the deranged, the incompetent and the bewildered....known to you as Camden Council.

Andrew Chaffe said...

What a discrace London has become the road users who pay thousands are sitting in grid-locked traffic to please a few, are they all arrogant bafoons in camden WHAT A MESS!

Anonymous said...

Can you imagine what would happen if there was a demo there ? Even with a section 12 and a time limit of half an hour, it would be catastrophic !

Anonymous said...

Maybe Boris Johnson could compulsory purchase the UCL campus, turn it into affordable accommodation for third world refugees and relocate UCL from the metropolis to a more suitable rural location, where students can ride their bikes and get their arses powdered and nappies changed in safety !

The problem is: most of the students at UCL were never taught how to cross the road - they're the spoilt mollycoddled school run brigade who's whole life has been wrapped in cotton wool.

Tomorrow's captains of industry... FFS, is it any wonder the the future of this country looks so bleak !

Anonymous said...

Three lanes for cyclists and one for cars, roads go in two directions but cyclists get three lanes and if they want they can also use the car lane, it makes perfect sense! Having a two way cycle lane along the curb side running is good for the paramedic industry as many motorists usually stop just beyond the white lines into the cycle lane. Many motorists that meet this suicide lane usually place the emphasis of checking the right side for traffic that passes on the left. They forget that Camden has made it into a french style right side drive carriageway also, you could say they have done one better as the road is now ambidextorous! Maybe camden should do a little risk assessment and instead of looking at just one type of traffic in the area, also look at other road users such a cars. Wheelchair users are going to have to learn to stand on their own two feet as they dont fit into Camdens plans as undertaking cars is more important that wheelchair users accessability. Come on Scamden.

Damian said...

So cyclists have to be provided with attractive spaces that allow overtaking. What's wrong with a 'no overtaking' sign where overtaking isn't feasible? Oh yes, cyclists don't follow signs or rules of the road when it is inconvenient for them so that wouldn't work! This is just crazy, you couldn't make it up!

Anonymous said...

what those who aren't TAXI DRIVERS don't understand is:

when we're at work, in our extremely expensive, mobile offices (over which, we have no say), WE DON'T GO ANYWHERE

all that we do, is try to take our passengers, as quickly as possible, TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO!

Alan Wicker

Anonymous said...

The penny has finally dropped with me .NOBODY GIVES A F###.

Anonymous said...

All cyclists in London should have to undertake a cycling proficiency/safety test to ride in London and have a permit that is paid for. There should also be new legislation to make cyclists accountable , such as points on their driving license for infringements. The legislation for cycling is arciac and out of date, it needs to be brought into the digital era. Cycling can stay, but cycling miscreants must be brought to book with new and up to date legislation.