Tuesday, June 11, 2013

ZIG ZAG LINES: Is Picking Up A Passenger Defined In Law As Being Parked?.... By Jim Thomas

The next time you receive a penalty for picking up a passenger on Zig Zag lines of a Zebra Crossing, should you appeal?

I totally believe that their is no law that states a Taxi stopping to pick up a passenger is parked. This is why we are allowed to stop to pick up and set down in bus lanes, on double yellow, or double red lines even with chevrons on the kerb, because in Law, we are not parked.

I recently asked the DoT for the guild lines on Zig Zag Lines and was sent a link to a web page here is that page:

Part 5:Pedestrian crossings (191 to 199)

191

You MUST NOT PARK on a crossing or in the area covered by the zig-zag lines. 

You MUST NOT OVERTAKE the moving vehicle nearest the crossing or the vehicle nearest the crossing which has stopped to give way to pedestrians.
Laws ZPPPCRGD regs 18, 20 & 24, RTRA sect 25(5) & TSRGD regs 10, 27 & 28

192

In queuing traffic, you should keep the crossing clear.

Highway Code - Rule 192 Keep The Crossing Clear

193

You should take extra care where the view of either side of the crossing is blocked by queuing traffic or incorrectly parked vehicles. Pedestrians may be crossing between stationary vehicles.

194

Allow pedestrians plenty of time to cross and do not harass them by revving your engine or edging forward.

195

Zebra crossings. As you approach a zebra crossing

  • look out for pedestrians waiting to cross and be ready to slow down or stop to let them cross
  • you MUST give way when a pedestrian has moved onto a crossing
  • allow more time for stopping on wet or icy roads
  • do not wave or use your horn to invite pedestrians across; this could be dangerous if another vehicle is approaching
  • be aware of pedestrians approaching from the side of the crossing.

A zebra crossing with a central island is two separate crossings (see pictures in Crossings (18 to 30)).
Law ZPPPCRGD reg 25


 I could be wrong, but i believe the DoT have failed to supply me with any proof of law or Highway Code rule/guideline that prohibits stoping to pick a passenger on Zig Zags and is unlawful or shows that picking up a passenger would render a vehicle as parked.

Rule 191 clearly states, you MUST NOT park on a crossing or in the area covered by the zig-zag lines. 

You MUST NOT overtake the moving vehicle nearest the crossing or the vehicle nearest the crossing which has stopped to give way to pedestrians.

But there doesn't seem to be any section applicable to Zig Zags that states you must not stop to pick up or set down passengers, whether a Taxi or private vehicle.

Only been done once in 40 years for picking up on a zig zag, but I will no longer be paying this penalty in future, and will challenge all the way to the adjudicators.




13 comments:

Anonymous said...

But surely you should not stop on the zig-zags, regardless of the 'Highway Code', because the zig-zags are there to create a space to improve visibility for pedestrians of oncoming traffic ?

Okay, there is a 'law' with penalties because some people would ignore that common-sense need without the threat of a fine or a slap on the wrist...

But whilst I can see that for a taxi it might occasionally be unavoidable, and a 'fine' is not the best response anyway - good road use, courtesy and consideration should surely mean avoiding parking on zig-zags, just as one should avoid waiting on zebra / pelican crossings even if one has right of way ?

Anonymous said...

Stopping within the controlled area has always been an offense, stopping to pick up or drop off would be deemed as parking for the purpose of the offense.

Editorial said...

We can all quote sound bites about what is right wrong or in a perfect world, but show me the legislation.

Stopped in traffic just after the crossing and passenger opens door, traffic moves on, camera takes picture

If the zig zag lines are there to secure a clear view why the ones after in a one way street?

You cant have something regardless of the Highway Code because the Highway Code are guidelines for the Law.

You either have laws or not !

How come we don't get a ticket for picking up on a red rout which states no parking at any time, if we are deemed as parked when picking up

Again show me the legislation!

Anonymous said...

18.  The driver of a vehicle shall not cause the vehicle or any part of it to stop within the limits of a crossing unless he is prevented from proceeding by circumstances beyond his control or it is necessary for him to stop to avoid injury or damage to persons or property.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

I am in the process of appealing a Zig-Zag penalty notice at the moment. The Zig-Zags down the central reservation were shorter than those at the kerb side making it look as if I was clear of them. Take a look at the 1997 Pedestrian, Pelican and Puffin act

Anonymous said...

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1997/2400/regulation/18/made

Anonymous said...

Whether it is illegal or not, safety of other road users (motorist, pedestrian or whatever)must surely come first. What if you are parked on the zigzags after the crossing, you are surely causing other drivers to pass on the wrong side of the road, and obstructing the view of the crossing to oncoming drivers. The same applies to stopping in the middle of the road to pick up a fare, when there is an adequate parking space a few feet away.

Anonymous said...

I just got a pcn for so called "parking" whilst in a drop off section outside st pauls cathedral in London doing exactly that; dropping off passengers. As i was on the left of the zigzag markings and therefore not on the carriage way can someone please explain to me exactly what laws was i considered to have broken? being as there is no signage preventing setting down or picking up. also if i am not on the highway how far to the left ie drop zone am i supposed to be to not be deemed to have broken the so called law. At the same time as i was dropping, there was a marked police car parked in the same place; i wonder if the city of London parking authority has also issued a pcn to the city police for the same so called offence as they were clearly not on a shout or conducting police business but sitting chatting and drinking tea/coffee!!!!!!

TRT said...

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1997/2400/regulation/22/made

You can stop on the zig zags after the crossing if you are in a public service vehicle.

Editorial said...

TRT
The important bit about this regulation are the words
"(ii)to carry passengers for hire or reward at separate fares,"

This means a bus and not a Taxi as many who have tried to use this in an aoeal have found to their cost.

Alex K said...

Public transport (also known as public transportation, public transit, or mass transit) is a shared passenger transport service which is available for use by the general public, as distinct from modes such as taxicab, carpooling or hired buses which are not shared by strangers without private arrangement.

Alex K said...

Drivers should not stop at any place where there is a “No stopping” sign, or where
stopping would cause an obstruction or a safety hazard, including on the zig-zag
lines by pedestrian crossings or outside schools.